Super Touring World - WIP skins & discussion

there may be another 2 extras you might be interested , and this skin already exists ....  

no 101 and   102
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at 3.40  they mention 2 cars build
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BTW that development  was totally futile the cars were just backmarkers  the whole season they raced in  

All i see is different numbers and since Baika has made #8 and #9 i don't see the point of adding them.

Moss and Aberdein raced the cars with #8 and #9. I think they used the 101 and 102 numbers just for that test.

Maybe these were early numbers as in 1993 all cars had 3 digit numbers

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The description of the video says that this test was at the end of 1993. So i think you're right

yes  the test sessions in 93

small problem I disocvered    , no 101  was used by Deon Jubert in the works BMW


only suggested the Ventos   as possible extras cos 93 south africa grid is only 10 entries   and they would be super easy to add

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strangely no 102 was not used by anybody, the other works BMW had no 100

found a rather interesting onboard video ... from the natcc at mid-ohio

found the  preseason 96 NATCC entry list and it's really different  than what we got !   shows you how much things can change  in a few months

2 Rod Millen  NZ-  Toyota Camry -  Rod Millen Motorsports
3 TBA - Toyota Camry -  Rod Millen Motorsports
4 TBA -  Ford Contour - Danny Sullivan
5 Danny Sullivan USA -  Ford Contour - Danny Sullivan
6 Dominic Dobson   USA - Dodge Stratus -  PacWest Racing
7 David  Donohue  USA -  Dodge Stratus -  PacWest Racing
8 TBA -  Honda Accord - L.A.  Prep
9 Albert Mirko GB - Honda Accord - Mirko Racing
10 Rolf Von Englebrechten D - BMW 320i  - Delong Motorsports
11 TBA -  Honda Accord - King Motorsports
12  Randy Pobst USA - Honda Accord - TC Kline
17  TBA - Pontiac Sunfire  -Mantasport
21 TBA - Honda Accord - T.C. Kline Racing
22 TBA - Honda Accord  - King Motorsports
65 Gary Sommers USA -  Ford Contour  - GPS Racing
66 TBA - Pontiac Sunfire - Mantasport
77 Matt Neal GB - Ford Contour - Team Dynamics
86 Chris Reinke USA -   Ford Countour - Sigma Engineering
88 TBA - Honda Accord - L.A. Prep


and some other interesting reading about 96 NATCC
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Well a nearly completely different entry list. I would like to see Matt Neal race that year along with Nigel Smith.

Paul Morris nearly raced 1999 BTCC for Dynamics...

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:found a rather interesting onboard video ... from the natcc at mid-ohio

something weird which only now noticed  about NATCC


in 96 there  are  no number plates at the back but in 97 season   they all had numbers  on the rigth side   rear bumper or trunk  like visible at 5.05
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so did our  unraced DC accord [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


means the no 9 Mirko Accord for 97 bonus also needs a plate at back


the  weird part is most championships had plates on the fron bonnet  or roof   but NATCC decided to have it just at the back....         they probaly got their inspiration from the japanese

Not just the back, the car also had small numberplates on the headlights.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Well a nearly completely different entry list. I would like to see Matt Neal race that year along with Nigel Smith.

yes  it's almost like you read an early draft of one of your favorite movies and it's really different then the final product ....

anyway in that link   for Laguna they listed the practie and qualy times  and it's  a big  span at the back       surprised the  Mirko Accord wa undnerpowered     afaik they tried to develop their own engine instead of just using  second hand ones from Europe , the Pontiac was over 30 seconds off the pace....

qualy

1  Peter Cunningham (Honda)    1:31.975
2  Randy Pobst  (Honda)   1:32.149
3 Rod Millen (Toyota)   1:32.785
4 Dominic Dobson (Dodge)   1:32.856
5 David welch (Ford)   1:32.948
6 David Donohue (Dodge)  1:32.999
7 Darren Law (BMW)  1:34.146
8 Jeff Andretti (Ford)  1:34.653
9 Steve Petty (BMW)  1:36.046

10  Albert Mirko (Honda)  1:45.973

11 Dave Jolly (Pontiac)  2:03.911

12 Chris Reinke (Ford)  NO TIME

Release 20th July.

1995 Procar now reworked and with new entries.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Not just the back, the car also had small numberplates on the headlights.

Yep...

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Nice job, Markos!

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could PROCAR be the most reworked series  in the entire mod?



at 4.44   I spotted a Calibra   but it's probaly not a "super touer" like the italian ones
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Well actually the most rework was done on the Copa de las Naciones series. I have reworked it 3 times. The Procar is also close hehe.
As for the new cars added. The 1995 Procar had 3 Divisions just like any other season of the series.
However Division 2 unlike other seasons also featured supertourers but without aero along with super production cars like the calibra mentioned. This explains why the 1995 entry list for Division 1 was only 8 cars. Now with the reworked version the grid has increased to 18 cars.
1995 was the only year like this. In 1994 all ST cars were in Division 1 and in 1996 no super production cars were in Division 2 causing confusion.
The Belgian Procar series holds a special place. It was my first skinpack for Race 07 when i was starting to paint skins and get involved with the mod.

speaking of   1995 belgian   cars I found something which might interest you  


you remember the  2.0L   M3    no  11     from SPA 1993 ?  , one of the drivers was WIllie Maljean and it qualified with a 2.49 lap times
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check no  43 from SPA  1995  , it's in PROCAR category but it could be the very same car, also contains that driver and the very same   2.49 lap times .... too bad the engine is not listed to know for sure  
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The car is featured in the reworked Procar 1995 grid and will be featured along with the Spa 24h 1995 pack.
Also a black Civic Ferio appears in the Procar class in the 1995 Spa 24h and i believe its the same car used in the 1994 race by Ferdinand de Lesseps/Jean-Paul Libert/Perre van Heurick and in the 1993 Procar by Patrick de Radigues.

it's good that this more obscure 3D models can be exploited with a few extra skins


they are both off the pace from the "real"   super tourers but at least they are not Pontiac level of slow....

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surprised some of those skins have their STW  banners  "Philips Car Systems"


maybe they didn't want to bother to take them off    only to  put them back on later

Well this only applies to Ralf Kalascheck. The Bychl Euroracing cars had Philips Banners by default in that year's CEZ and the Czech Series.