Super Touring World - WIP skins & discussion

baika wrote:Here are the two BMW 320d's from 1998 Nürburgring 24h. I've used Simbins Seat engine, and modified the gearbox because of the engines lower rpm.
The cars are in the STW 98 extra class

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Thank you for this car

She have just 3 problem :

- When you don't accelerate, no brake engine, the car is in free wheel. I think it's a problem of clutch in the .HDC

- the car use the same fuel of other touring car

- the car need to be fastest more than 2 sec at Donington. I think with 1055kg the car is good !

Well, i've only changed the engine and the gearbox's final ratio. The .HDC is all the same.

I have find the problem

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If revlimitrange is 4200 when other engine is 8500, you need to give +110% at the value, maybe more for diesel engine. After you do that, you need to change the clutch in .HDC, otherwise the game activate autoclutch and you are in free wheel when you brake.

I think with that and 10-15% less fuel consumation and +15HP, the car is good !

Jarodparker wrote:

- When you don't accelerate, no brake engine, the car is in free wheel. I think it's a problem of clutch in the .HDC

Do you mean that when you release the throttle when the car is moving, the RPM falls back to idle? Like in those old 2stroke engined cars like Trabant or Wartburg?

in the german commentary they mentioned that diesel's main advantage was fuel consumption which means less pit stops for the race

and bare in mind the privateer 320 i qualified a bit faster

in case STW pack gets updated a possible skin for the STW 1997 bonus category , Klaus Ludwig

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Ludwig's car is already there.

ahh my bad, it's with no 41 in-game instead of 20

hi fans Here u see my  own  car in GTR²

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First  beta to see  , hope  u enjoy  about this .
Run with its own  5 zylinder sound , Not  a volvo , its an audi .

Greets eltom

baika wrote:

Jarodparker wrote:

- When you don't accelerate, no brake engine, the car is in free wheel. I think it's a problem of clutch in the .HDC

Do you mean that when you release the throttle when the car is moving, the RPM falls back to idle? Like in those old 2stroke engined cars like Trabant or Wartburg?

Yes that is the problem and causing at car an horrible underteer ! The engine come from ESR WTCC mod but I think the creator of this engine don't know the middle column serve of torque engine braking.

The rpm isn't good, temperature and heating isn't good, fuel consumation èsn't good and the same for the torque but no problem I create new engine !

intelpower wrote:

and bare in mind the privateer 320 i qualified a bit faster

I think it's H-S Stuck who are so much older to do a good qualy lol ...

The problem Negativ power when no  gas to  Engine.

Usualy compresion  to 2.0 liter class @ appr. 300 HP is appr. 14.5 : 1 . think by your  own car  most near by 10: 1 and  your cars are more heavy.
So engine Breaking  is at touringcars more to feel .

The Simbin engine  do not show this  correctly .
Remember to pull a car  by feed with a gear  looked to start up engine .(empty battery for example u do it)

The decelerate   must be nearby 15 km  per sec or more for the light touring car in the first gear .

I think it the right way to put it into the game , it is possible to make .

In the  Red marked table upper in the  Tread  u can  adust the  engine friction   by each RPM .  don´t forget  to  give more mass  to  rotating mass, remeber  sinbim engine do not show this feeling real.

Look to tom´s engine shop , u can do all by easy way . U will find it in misc on other active GTR² fansides .
Greets eltom

Hi

Now  with  free spokes , watch the breaks ,  carboninlay in the spoiler .
Wheel are  Audi Avus design from Audi A8 D2 18" . same like  Audi S2 but  in 16"

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My real S2 Sedan  with the  18 " Avus  rims
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Greats eltom

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ESR WTCC mod physuc and take direct from original simbin race series game
in fact it is VW inline 4 TDi engine
by limited of GMotor engine (not support turbo boost) and maybe lack of real some data of that car
original simbin guy try simulate turbo-diesel engine by that limited
resault are not realistic as you said

if you want edit compression ratio use rfactor PhysicsEditor
is better more than adjust by scratch

Thanks guys for your answer but I have almost finished the engine.

I think tomorrow it's good, just need to test the heating, fuel consumation and laptime but the brake engine and the drivability of the power is finished

Jarodparker wrote:

Yes that is the problem and causing at car an horrible underteer ! The engine come from ESR WTCC mod but I think the creator of this engine don't know the middle column serve of torque engine braking.

The rpm isn't good, temperature and heating isn't good, fuel consumation èsn't good and the same for the torque but no problem I create new engine !

Well, i've took the engine directly from Simbin's RaceOn, without any modifications. I've never heard any problem about that in RaceOn.
And i didn't experienced what you said about this "free-wheel" effect, even with autocluch on. I don't know what could be the problem.  
Does anybody have the same what Jarod said?

I think iyou don't feel the problem because you use old tyres who stuck so much on ground and haven't the precision than tyres V2. With new tyres, all little differences have a biggest effect on car than older tyres and you have a better feeling to see all problem of drivability !

The following packs have been updated:

STW 1994-1999 - small change to 1 of the Astra skins, team name and now running without aero kit.
HSCC 2015 - 2016 skin pack added, credits JSMEE for putting together.
PROCAR 1993-1997 - Additional 1997 skins by Markano97
NATCC 1996 - 1997 - Additional BMW skin for 1996 season

Thanks Simon  slowly but surely this mod comes closer and closer to being finished  

How calculate fuel estimation ?

Jarodparker wrote:How calculate fuel estimation ?

Yep, very interesting question...

I have finished the engine of BMW 320D !

I think all driver who like to drift have an erection with this car + tyres V2

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I think the fuel estimate of all engine need to be modified for 1.100 because AI goes in pit after 15 laps

there is some info about fuel useage on the Race2Play forums

eurostc wrote:there is some info about fuel useage on the Race2Play forums

Link please ?

this is a bit annoying cos I didn't spot earlier but in 1996 STW  the Team Lauderbach BMW is missing

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in the first 4 events it was raced by austrian  Alexander Gaggl  (raced as Alex G in 1995 season)    with no 32 then he left the team and was replcaed by Christian Menzel with no 31 at 2 further rounds

I go thru the races and trying to get good shots of this BMW

I just checked and indeed the cars are missing.I remember adding them in the pack though last year....The car is available.It was originally done by Baika for his stw 1996 pack.

Markano97 wrote:I just checked and indeed the cars are missing.I remember adding them in the pack though last year....The car is available.It was originally done by Baika for his stw 1996 pack.

well check my upodated post, some very good shots of it !!!


should I go and get shots of the no 31 Menzel version for Extra category ? or was that done too ?