Super Touring World - WIP skins & discussion

perhaps we need a small rear spoiler too ?    and mirrorrs are right at the front of the door

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new front and rear bumper with the older wing. nice idea!

Simon? ^^

DaBlub wrote:new front and rear bumper with the older wing. nice idea!

Simon? ^^

Simon's not doing much at moment, sim stuff is to quote him "on the back burner"

I actually spoke to the guy who runs the "audi80st" Facebook page, and he sent me tons of information and pictures, detailing the different aero packages (especially front), down to some homologation papers.

However I tried editing the 3d model and it wouldn't work, I had a new bumper and it wasn't showing when I went in-game to use it, so I deleted it.

maybe we can help you.

It is just the Audi v6 bumper ( Coupe and Cabrio) in 3 variations: original, than with a splitter and the 3rd one with a Little Carbon-stripe.

original v6:
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V6 with splitter:
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and the v6 wit Carbon-sripe:
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And there ist the early 1993 french Audi 80 with the normal Audi 80 bumper.
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i need just the bumpers, and i can fix that

DaBlub wrote:maybe we can help you.

It is just the Audi v6 bumper ( Coupe and Cabrio) in 3 variations: original, than with a splitter and the 3rd one with a Little Carbon-stripe.

original v6:
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V6 with splitter:
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and the v6 wit Carbon-sripe:
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And there ist the early 1993 french Audi 80 with the normal Audi 80 bumper.
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i need just the bumpers, and i can fix that

Can send you all the information I have if you want?

yes, please.

edit the mirror position.

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DaBlub wrote:yes, please.

can you make an inventary with all the Audi 80 skins and see what bumper they need/ had ? and for the pre 95 which rear wing they might need


for example I find that those Rothmans Audi 80 from SATCC 95 used diufferent bumpers too

see this 2 pics

here seems the big splinter one
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here seems the smaller one maybe they changed mid-season
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czech one seems big spliter painted rover ?  and the 95 PROCAR ones
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maybe safe to say that everyone 95+  had the big spliter and 95 spec rear wing ?   and then only the pre 95 ones are problematic

okay my friends this is a Little bit ricky now:

the cars with the big spliter on the front is the factory Audi 80 from the French ftcc 1993.
Audi have updated the car with a rearwing and this big carbonsplitter.

All Audis since 1994 have the v6 bumper on it.

So, I think tonight with a 3D model for the Audi possible, plus having got an extra painter, it has been productive

we have a problem


if we do pre 94 bumpers   the BMW also needs such an operation

introduced in 94 in some series like STW , CIVT, BTCC etc   this is the in-game bumper
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but the original one looked like this  , used in 93  and early 94 it's quite different
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on the Peugeot 405 it would be easy just the front lip would need to be cut for the early one and maybe that air vent on the side removed (was just some texture anyway)
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the Mondeo  one was also quite different


the in-game one
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but original one was quite different
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Nissan Primera is just like Peugeot 405, just an extended front lip
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Well, one thing at a time, and thanks for the info guys, we'll see what can be done after this current lot of jobs is one.

yes  continuing with Inventory,  Alfa 155 NOTHING  needs to be done original ones looks like the late one

original
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later looks the same
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CAVALIER/ Vectra A     same as with Oegeot 405

just the "lips" need be cut  
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same story for Laguna

and again for the SEAT Toledo
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Toyota Carina , same story just the underpart needs cut
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and same story again for Xedos 6  carbon part cut
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if only the underpart needs "cut" it means no  mapping issues actually     only the BMW skins may need small rework

The Alfas need just a small modification for the front bumper.
In the 1993 they were using a stock front bumper

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but in the 1994 they've changed the bumper for all the championships

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in 1997 they've tried  a different bumper, later used only in the Copa De Las Naciones in 1998-1999 and in the CIS 1998

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NEW ALFA for the CIS 1994 season, Gordon De Adamich (nope, it's just a group N div.3 car, nothing to see here, move on)

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In the 1994 CIS, this Alfa used a different spoiler

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Too much stuff? i know        

O.o okay i think all the stuff is to much.

DaBlub wrote:O.o okay i think all the stuff is to much.

Well, all in good time

Even though some of these changes might or might not be made, always good to have the information regardless.

bernie91 wrote:NEW ALFA for the CIS 1994 season, Gordon De Adamich

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That's a Group N car.

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bernie91 wrote:NEW ALFA for the CIS 1994 season, Gordon De Adamich

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That's a Group N car.

Damn, you're right, my mistake... the photo description was unprecise, sorry

It still says Campionato Italiano Velocità Turismo on the door above the number, which is CIVT.

Related, interesting period pictures.
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And unusual backmarkers (it says CIVT 1995 on the watermark).
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Of little relevance, but interesting nonetheless.

Group N cars were also running in the italian championship. Nice photos ChaosZero

Hey guys, any info about this car? I've found it on the Peter Kox page, supertouring or a 24h gt homologated bmw?

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This is definately an M3 GTR , supertouring cars were not allowed to have such massive wheel arches, judging by the photo it looks like a belcar championship entry.

Markano97 wrote:This is definately an M3 GTR , supertouring cars were not allowed to have such massive wheel arches, judging by the photo it looks like a belcar championship entry.

yep, i thought it too, but i didn't find anything about his entries in the belcar champ, only for 24h of Spa and only with BMW 320i (there are photos with a 1994 total red BMW).
I will ask him directly some infos

Markano97 wrote:This is definately an M3 GTR , supertouring cars were not allowed to have such massive wheel arches, judging by the photo it looks like a belcar championship entry.

could be Dutch "productioncar" Championship from 1994-1995 too, cars from class 2000cc+