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Re: Super Touring World - WIP skins & discussion

Post  intelpower on Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:40 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Its also done and released...since the mod was in Race 07. Rolling Eyes
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it had the side bumeprs  and top of bumpers plastic black


see the rear wheel,  there  are  paint "spikes"  pointitng    forwards  on both sides  and they are differrent on each side   and the colors look too bright , the blue side   paint is lower on the real skin

front right wheel it had "spikes" too    and the ones on the left side are different    and  the yellow stripe on side fender is somewhat smaller  ,     the big red stripe on the left side was more like SNAKE  


also it looks like  it had 2   tones of yelow, one more golden on the front bumper  and rigth at  rear but the other  one sseem britghter  
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you said that you may redo some STW skins       and this could be a candidate that's why I posted pic Smile

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Post  drr6 on Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:51 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] if you want to help them, you should learn how to paint or modelling cars... Sure they appreciatte this more than tell they what should do.

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Post  GTP_furinkazen on Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:06 am

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Its also done and released...since the mod was in Race 07. Rolling Eyes
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but it's a bit not accurate   Exclamation   Exclamation


compare yourself
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it had the side bumeprs  and top of bumpers plastic black


see the rear wheel,  there  are  paint "spikes"  pointitng    forwards  on both sides  and they are differrent on each side   and the colors look too bright , the blue side   paint is lower on the real skin

front right wheel it had "spikes" too    and the ones on the left side are different    and  the yellow stripe on side fender is somewhat smaller  ,     the big red stripe on the left side was more like SNAKE  


also it looks like  it had 2   tones of yelow, one more golden on the front bumper  and rigth at  rear but the other  one sseem britghter  
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you said that you may redo some STW skins       and this could be a candidate that's why I posted pic Smile

Yea ok I've seen enough and had enough.

Firstly. Mark kept this project alive in the interim period between Simon windoing down his involvement and myself taking over - during which time it was just me and Mark. We've now got another FIVE skinners, 1 3D modeller, and 1 guy on physics so obviously something.

Secondly, at least the skin is in the mod, improvements can always be made but saying things are flat-out wrong is quite disrespectful and ironic considering the STCC skins you did were i'm told "60 % complete & without windows" so they had to be re-done anyway.

I'll let you in on a little secret... modders test their own work, relay their own work to others for feedback and work with each other... it's crude, almost medieval & communist logic I know but it actually works.

So please Intelpower, consider yourself first before going on one of your mass critiques - heavens above - i've posted enough times looking for skinners, I've now got a load and.... you're not one of them Smile

Apologies to any moderators if it's a tad harsh but sometimes things have to be said.

And to keep this on-topic, here is said NTCC/ STCC rework on the EVOLUTION version of the mod - I don't remember which set as I did this as 1:30am this morning to take my mind off flu.

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Post  intelpower on Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:16 am

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Secondly, at least the skin is in the mod, improvements can always be made but saying things are flat-out wrong is quite disrespectful and ironic considering the STCC skins you did were i'm told "60 % complete & without windows" so they had to be re-done anyway.

I'll let you in on a little secret... modders test their own work, relay their own work to others for feedback and work with each other... it's crude, almost medieval & communist logic I know but it actually works.

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so which is the procedure  when some of this errors pop up one way or the other  ?   PM ?


and BTW which of my STCC skins wa sso bad that it had to be redone ?

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Post  Sylphide on Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:19 am

Please take this to PMs

Thank you

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Post  Markano97 on Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:16 am

Here's some reworked STCC 1998 cars. A couple of these have been updated further(the bmws and the black volvo). Full grid previews will be posted soon. These cars will be included in the next release. Very Happy
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Post  baika on Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:39 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] if you want to help them, you should learn how to paint or modelling cars...
You may not know him, he's the member of the TCL Revival Team. They've made many great skins for the TCL mod, like the complete DTM years from the 80's (84-90). Wink
I think he's just want to help in his own way, he's very accurate and detailed. He probably don't want to start a strife.

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Post  Markano97 on Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:52 am

I know intelpower can skin....and i'd really wish these guys could do their work from TCL in GTR2 aswell. But pointing out things constantly without showing some appreciation is frustrating. I'm not saying that i'm against feedback in any way.
For [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] some friendly advice. I know you want to help this mod but no need to search around mate. If i need anything i'll gladly ask this great forum.
I've devoted hours of research trying to find these cars and the mod has been able to be more complete. I never thought that this mod would get this far with so many championships especially with the majority of them having full grids.
To summarize, no need to post stuff about the mod constantly mate, as i said if i need something i'll let you know Very Happy


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Post  intelpower on Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:03 am

OK       won't post  unsolicited stuff    , maybe PM reference material   at most  if by miracle I find  stuff from missing entries    like that Tommy Constantine  BMW from NATCC 97   Surprised







BTW  today  in  TCL Revival RELEASE Addon thread   a new version of DTM 84-90 megapack V 2.1 released with some fixes  and some extra skins,   pre 1988 DTM reference material is utter pain as it wasn't even televised Mad  so  STW or STCC  with nearly all races is utter paradise by comparison

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Post  Markano97 on Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:16 am

I understand, group A must be a pain. As i said i'd love to see these cars in GTR2. (Shame the Xr4ti Sierra was taken off tbh).
Anyway back on topic, about half the STCC field is reworked, just the Opels and the BMWs left to do. Very Happy

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Post  simspeed_racing on Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:11 am

Nice work on the 1998 STCC cars. The Kari Makinen car had the wheel decals and 100+ logo like on the car Matt Neal drove in 1997 BTCC rather than the the logo in that picture from the 1998 BTCC car.

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Post  Markano97 on Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:34 am

Thank you Simon!

Thank you for the notice! Apparently Kari Makinen had Matt neal's pattern from 1997 in one side.
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I forgot to see that it was a double livery. bsod  bsod
I'll fix it Very Happy

EDIT: The car is now fixed and has the correct double sided livery.

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Post  bernie91 on Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:53 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:BTW  today  in  TCL Revival RELEASE Addon thread   a new version of DTM 84-90 megapack V 2.1 released with some fixes  and some extra skins,   pre 1988 DTM reference material is utter pain as it wasn't even televised Mad  so  STW or STCC  with nearly all races is utter paradise by comparison

What?? is TCL mod still active and updated?? where?? i want it now and live as a recluse for the rest of the year!! Shocked affraid

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Post  ChaosZero on Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:00 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:BTW  today  in  TCL Revival RELEASE Addon thread   a new version of DTM 84-90 megapack V 2.1 released with some fixes  and some extra skins,   pre 1988 DTM reference material is utter pain as it wasn't even televised Mad  so  STW or STCC  with nearly all races is utter paradise by comparison

What?? is TCL mod still active and updated?? where?? i want it now and live as a recluse for the rest of the year!! Shocked affraid
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Go through all 5 pages to find all updates.

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Post  bernie91 on Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:17 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:BTW  today  in  TCL Revival RELEASE Addon thread   a new version of DTM 84-90 megapack V 2.1 released with some fixes  and some extra skins,   pre 1988 DTM reference material is utter pain as it wasn't even televised Mad  so  STW or STCC  with nearly all races is utter paradise by comparison

What?? is TCL mod still active and updated?? where?? i want it now and live as a recluse for the rest of the year!! Shocked affraid
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Go through all 5 pages to find all updates.

Ahh, mistery solved: it's a rFactor mod and i'm not able to convert it for gtr2. damn.

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Post  ChaosZero on Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:00 am

If you've got time to waste, you can convert skins and physics back to the GTR2 version from Ron as the models are the same.

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Post  Markano97 on Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:35 am

STCC 1998 is now reworked Very Happy All entries are now included!
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Post  intelpower on Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:47 am

totally redid the no 29  NESTE    Vectra GT (Cavaier) using other reference material ?!

I remember  I did it but  the livery was differnt  ,   guess it changed during season like so often with small privateers  

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Post  Markano97 on Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:53 am

I came across some photos of it and indeed altered the livery Very Happy

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Post  simspeed_racing on Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:18 am

I skinned most of STCC 1999 so would it be any help uploading the PSDs?

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Post  Markano97 on Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:12 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I skinned most of STCC 1999 so would it be any help uploading the PSDs?

It would be massive help!! Feel free to send them over. I have gathered many photos and with the race footage available i should be able to make them 100% accurate where needed. Very Happy

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Post  intelpower on Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:07 am

you found a magic STCC  photos archieve or something ?  Laughing   affraid

made the count   and turns out 1999  season has a whooping 30 entries  without duplicates !!!!! Shocked        the only duplicate is the no 5 Alfa Romeo 156

2000 season if you exclude 2 duplicates also had  30 entries total !!!  but there are many 1 or 2 races only  (which  makes it much harder with reference for them)    entries so 1999 season was the most consistent in terms of big grids !!   bounce


on the NATCC 97 front bad news, couldn't even find any videos or photos from Long Beach 97 (except the fe w on the cashed  official site)       so I am afraid that private BMW is lost    , the only  way to boost up the 97 grid while still preserving the grid authentichity  would something like a  NATCC 97 EXTRA  category   with that yellow Accord and  Peugeot 405  which would allow the player if he wants slightly bigger grid or more an original one   ,

really annoying there is perfect reference of 2 cars which didn't attent a race and none of  a car which actually did attent a meeting     Sad Suspect

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Post  Markano97 on Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:19 am

For 1998 i had the official programmes from the Auto Motor Sport magazine...so things were easier. For 1999 i don't have as much but i can recognize more logos.
As for the NATCC a shame....but hey the 13-14 entries that 1997 had are now 100% accurate and provide good racing. Plus with the omission of a period accurate long beach(sadly its only available in rfactor) almost the trackpack is available.
1999 STCC previews should be up in a few days Very Happy

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Post  GTP_furinkazen on Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:11 am

What NATCC car? I have the official yearbook annuals...

EDIT Constantine BMW, hmmmmm....

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Post  intelpower on Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:30 am

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EDIT Constantine BMW, hmmmmm....

you can see many pics of him here, he was a partner/friend to Hugh Hefner and sposnored by PLAYBOY

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but nothing on his BMW E36 of NATCC , my guess is that car never even left the garage as not set an time in two practice sesssions

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